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	<title>Comments on: Setup Pilot Versus Typical Episode</title>
	<link>http://www.jillgolick.com/2007/06/setup-pilot-versus-typical-episode/</link>
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		<title>By: Running With My Eyes Closed &#8250; PVR Alert</title>
		<link>http://www.jillgolick.com/2007/06/setup-pilot-versus-typical-episode/#comment-69</link>
		<author>Running With My Eyes Closed &#8250; PVR Alert</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] premiers Monday August 13th at 10:30 pm on Showtime with a &#8220;typical episode&#8221; pilot written by Tom [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] premiers Monday August 13th at 10:30 pm on Showtime with a &#8220;typical episode&#8221; pilot written by Tom [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Running With My Eyes Closed &#8250; Californication</title>
		<link>http://www.jillgolick.com/2007/06/setup-pilot-versus-typical-episode/#comment-66</link>
		<author>Running With My Eyes Closed &#8250; Californication</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is more a typical-episode pilot than a premise pilot. Hank bumbles through what seems to be his normal routine. But it is the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] is more a typical-episode pilot than a premise pilot. Hank bumbles through what seems to be his normal routine. But it is the [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Running With My Eyes Closed &#8250; K-Ville</title>
		<link>http://www.jillgolick.com/2007/06/setup-pilot-versus-typical-episode/#comment-59</link>
		<author>Running With My Eyes Closed &#8250; K-Ville</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] basics: K-Ville is a cop series set in post Katrina New Orleans. The first episode is a premise pilot. It has four acts and a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] basics: K-Ville is a cop series set in post Katrina New Orleans. The first episode is a premise pilot. It has four acts and a [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Running With My Eyes Closed &#8250; Selma and Patty Will Love It: Burn Notice</title>
		<link>http://www.jillgolick.com/2007/06/setup-pilot-versus-typical-episode/#comment-57</link>
		<author>Running With My Eyes Closed &#8250; Selma and Patty Will Love It: Burn Notice</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you&#8217;re doing an arced series, you pretty much have to write a premise pilot [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] you&#8217;re doing an arced series, you pretty much have to write a premise pilot [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jennica</title>
		<link>http://www.jillgolick.com/2007/06/setup-pilot-versus-typical-episode/#comment-20</link>
		<author>Jennica</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jillgolick.com/2007/06/setup-pilot-versus-typical-episode/#comment-20</guid>
		<description>Re: Firefly. I immediately thought of it, too, reading this post. I had a similar experience. And the pilot was not only great... it was a two-hour pilot! SO much setup was lost by airing The Train Job first. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think the problem with saying 'skip the setup' is when we're talking about a show that's heavy on season arc. You couldn't skip the setup for a 24, or a Prison Break, or a Lost (though those shows did a good job of making sure the pilots had the elements of a typical episode).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I actually think there's some middle ground between setup pilot and premise pilot. I've been working on a 1/2 hour comedy pilot (which does have some interest from Cdn prod cos, though I'm not counting my chickens) and it's a line I've been trying to walk... but I think it's doable. When I think of sitcom pilots like, say, Friends or Newsradio-- those pilots set-up the show, but also felt like typical episodes (given the character dynamics, kind of plot, and subplots happening). Most importantly, the conflict in those pilots was the same kind of conflict you'd see in a typical ep. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lots to think about, here. Thanks for blogging, Jill!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Firefly. I immediately thought of it, too, reading this post. I had a similar experience. And the pilot was not only great&#8230; it was a two-hour pilot! SO much setup was lost by airing The Train Job first. </p>
<p>I think the problem with saying &#8217;skip the setup&#8217; is when we&#8217;re talking about a show that&#8217;s heavy on season arc. You couldn&#8217;t skip the setup for a 24, or a Prison Break, or a Lost (though those shows did a good job of making sure the pilots had the elements of a typical episode).</p>
<p>I actually think there&#8217;s some middle ground between setup pilot and premise pilot. I&#8217;ve been working on a 1/2 hour comedy pilot (which does have some interest from Cdn prod cos, though I&#8217;m not counting my chickens) and it&#8217;s a line I&#8217;ve been trying to walk&#8230; but I think it&#8217;s doable. When I think of sitcom pilots like, say, Friends or Newsradio&#8211; those pilots set-up the show, but also felt like typical episodes (given the character dynamics, kind of plot, and subplots happening). Most importantly, the conflict in those pilots was the same kind of conflict you&#8217;d see in a typical ep. </p>
<p>Lots to think about, here. Thanks for blogging, Jill!</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Golick</title>
		<link>http://www.jillgolick.com/2007/06/setup-pilot-versus-typical-episode/#comment-17</link>
		<author>Jill Golick</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jillgolick.com/2007/06/setup-pilot-versus-typical-episode/#comment-17</guid>
		<description>Many things can happen, but in Canada there are no burned scripts for a show in production.  If you write it, you produce it.  And if you produce it you air it.  And if it's a setup pilot you air it first.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When I say "don't write a setup pilot", I say it to Canadian writers developing series for Canadian broadcaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many things can happen, but in Canada there are no burned scripts for a show in production.  If you write it, you produce it.  And if you produce it you air it.  And if it&#8217;s a setup pilot you air it first.  </p>
<p>When I say &#8220;don&#8217;t write a setup pilot&#8221;, I say it to Canadian writers developing series for Canadian broadcaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Elver</title>
		<link>http://www.jillgolick.com/2007/06/setup-pilot-versus-typical-episode/#comment-16</link>
		<author>Elver</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jillgolick.com/2007/06/setup-pilot-versus-typical-episode/#comment-16</guid>
		<description>When Joss Whedon was creating Firefly, he created the pilot first, but the network wanted a normal episode as well. So they wrote the "Train Job" episode.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, since the pilot was a bit slow, the network decided to air the "Train Job" first.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I remember watching the very first episode when it aired and thinking "What the *bleep*? This universe has no set-up. It's lame." And I didn't watch any more of it until the show had been canceled and the DVD came out, which had the real pilot as the first episode. And after watching the (really awesome) pilot I was pleasantly surprised. Overall, Firefly turned out to be a great show.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I guess the moral of the story is that pilots don't always go on air first and the network can always decide to screw things up for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Joss Whedon was creating Firefly, he created the pilot first, but the network wanted a normal episode as well. So they wrote the &#8220;Train Job&#8221; episode.</p>
<p>However, since the pilot was a bit slow, the network decided to air the &#8220;Train Job&#8221; first.</p>
<p>I remember watching the very first episode when it aired and thinking &#8220;What the *bleep*? This universe has no set-up. It&#8217;s lame.&#8221; And I didn&#8217;t watch any more of it until the show had been canceled and the DVD came out, which had the real pilot as the first episode. And after watching the (really awesome) pilot I was pleasantly surprised. Overall, Firefly turned out to be a great show.</p>
<p>I guess the moral of the story is that pilots don&#8217;t always go on air first and the network can always decide to screw things up for you.</p>
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